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职位列表

• Technical Support Engineer
• JBoss Frontline Support Engineer
• GPS Consultant
• QE Engineer, JBoss Development Studio
• QE Engineer, JBoss RichFaces Project
• Senior QE Engineer/Team Lead- JBoss Developer Studio
• Senior QE Engineer/Team Lead- JBoss Rich Faces

简历投递方式

请投递中英文简历至: job2openparty@gmail.com

Technical Support Engineer

The position is for a Technical Support Engineer in the GSS (Global Support Services) division of Red Hat to provide technical support to greater China and global customers. A senior position may be offered depending on the profile of the candidate. As a part of the responsibilities, the candidate is expected to:

• Answer telephone hotline and web based inquiries from customers regarding Red Hat software
• Analyze problems with non-functioning software to identify problem areas and recommend corrective actions
• Use professional concept and exercises judgment within defined procedures
• Have an understanding of different installation methods, networking, firewall, security, clustering, web servers, and any database

Requirements

• Two or more years of experience (5+ for senior) in troubleshooting, debugging, and configuration of different applications especially related to Linux.
• Deep understanding of Linux/Unix and Open Source
• Understanding of Operating Systems especially Linux, programming languages and Software Engineering.
• Specific experience in Kernel, TCP/IP, LDAP/NIS, NFS, SAMBA, TCP/IP. Enterprise Hardware (like SAN/NAS) a plus
• Good knowledge on Java, J2EE or JBoss a plus
• Well developed reading, writing and speaking Mandarin Chinese and English skills
• Fluent Cantonese speaking a plus
• Ability to convey information concisely and clearly to all levels of clients
• Prior experience in a support role is preferred
• Active participation in LUGs (Linux Unix Groups) and Open Source Projects will be an added advantage
• Senior engineers are expected to lead small teams and mentor junior people.
• Degree preferably in a scientific, technical or Computer Science.

JBoss Frontline Support Engineer

Red Hat Inc. is looking for Java engineers to join its worldwide Support organization. Come join one of the fastest growing enterprise software and services companies and the leader of Open Source. This opportunity is a tremendous chance to become part of a fast-paced, leading edge company that is changing the way software is developed, sold and supported.
You will follow a full curriculum of technical and service trainings to become a fully operational JEE/JBoss specialist. In addition, you will experience every day how we do support differently, by working hand-in-hand with our team of JBoss Support Experts as well as with JBoss R&D. This day-to-day cooperation will offer a great opportunity to learn beyond the trainings themselves. You also will have the opportunity to deliver Developer-to-Developer Assistance as well as Production Technical Support.

A large majority of support is accomplished through a web portal, although phone and IM are also utilized. These positions are opened in several Support centers around the world (USA, UK, Australia, China, India). You will report to the Regional Manager of Red Hat Support, within Red Hat’s Global Support Services organization. In your daily activities, you will be working with JBoss Support Experts so that you can leverage their skills and experience and gain more knowledge and skills for yourself in the process.

Location:

Beijing, China

Requirements：

Required Skills and Experience

• 2+ years of professional work experience
• In-depth knowledge of the Java platform
• Proven ability and willingness to learn new open source middleware technologies
• Strong customer service skills
• Demonstrated efficient problem solving techniques
• Excellent verbal and written communication skills in English

Preferred Skills and Experience

• 1 year+ experience/knowledge of one or several JEE/App Server technologies such as JMS, Web Services, Servlets, JSP, JDBC, Hibernate, Tomcat or Data sources
• Ability to deal with change and limited structure
• Must be highly motivated, self-sufficient, perceptive, ambitious, flexible and high energy

GPS Consultant

Position Summary：

The Linux Consultant leads the onsite delivery and implementation of products and offerings from the Global Professional Services (GPS) organization of Red Hat. A highly respected and valued member of the Services team, the Consultant will have a diverse and deep understanding of enterprise Open Source and Linux usage, and experience applying those technologies appropriately. A Consultant is expected to have superb technical and communication skills, facilitating successful delivery of projects such as: providing reference architectures, proofs of concept, benchmarks, training sessions, designs, automation programs or scripts, performance enhancements, documentation, product patches, and/or other artifacts as needed. The Consultant’s ability to master new technologies coupled with Red Hat’s unparalleled training programs keep the Consultant in the leading edge of Red Hat’s evolving technologies and allow the Consultant to advance their technical leadership.

Requirements：

• Excellent technical skills in Unix or Linux system configuration and administration that includes some or all of these areas: networking, security, kernel modules, open source and proprietary software tools for monitoring and management, file systems, SAN storage, LDAP integration, Linux kernel and module compilations, RPM packages creation and deployment, authoring programs using scripting languages (e.g. bash, ksh, python, perl), high availability clusters and cluster file systems (install, configure, tune, test, administer).
• Demonstrated experience desired with development tools (GCC, various IDEs, CVS, Rational Suite), source version control tools and source code repositories, and relational databases.
• Excellent communication and interpersonal skills. Demonstrated experience communicating value, progress, and metrics (status) of key projects to required stakeholders and diverse audiences (technical and business).
• Red Hat Certified Engineer (RHCE) or ability to complete within 30 days of hire.
• Ability to constantly learn about new technologies and apply those concepts to customers needs.
• Ability to work as part of a geographically dispersed team.
• Excellent oral and written communication skills in English and Mandarin.

Desired Skills：

• 5+ years experience with Linux in a system administration or system programming role.
• Advanced knowledge of Unix or Linux database administration and tuning.
• Advanced knowledge of Linux kernel internals, including performance tuning experience.
• Experienced implementing virtualization technologies in an enterprise setting.
• Knowledgeable on Open Source technologies and the Open Source Community.
• Project management skill.

QE Engineer, JBoss Development Studio

• Division: JBoss
• Travel Involved: 0-10%
• Job Type: Full Time
• Job Level: 3+ years experience
• Education: Bachelors Degree or Equivalent
• Category: Quality Assurance, Engineer
• Position Summary:The JBoss division of Red Hat is building out a quality engineering team for JBoss Developer Studio project. We are looking for a talented and motivated quality engineer to contribute to our efforts. As a QE engineer on JBDS you will help execute and maintain test plans. You are expected to proactively reach out to the development team and proactively take part in making sure JBDS delivers what our users needs. You will also work with the QE technical lead improving our QA process, which will involve automating the testing where possible and thus will enable you and your team to also focus on adding additional value to JBDS or related projects. We also encourage everyone from our team to participate in our community forums, publish blogs, write articles etc.

ESSENTIAL JOB REQUIREMENTS:

Education and Experience:

QE experience with enterprise class products sold to F1000 customers Familiar with JBoss products (e.g. JBoss AS and Seam) BS degree in Computer Science, SW Testing, EE or related technical discipline. Minimum 3+ years of QA experience in a computer software. Must have solid understanding of QA test methodologies. Experience writing test plans and working with project teams to coordinate test schedule. Experience working with bug tracking databases. Experience with planning and setup of QA test environments Experience with global development and communication Good understanding of open source software Java programming skills Must have experience with building testing frameworks and in test automation Understanding of and experience with Windows NT and Linux operating systems. Experience with the following programming or scripting languages: Java, JavaScript, Ant, Maven

JBDS specific skills:

Experience writing automated test scripts using open source testing tools that are suitable for testing Eclipse plug-ins.

Knowledge, Skills and Abilities:

Excellent verbal and written communication skills. Able to work well with a team as well as independently. Excellent technical skills. Highly organized, oriented to schedules and deadlines. Able to work in a geographically distributed development set up.

QE Engineer, JBoss RichFaces Project

• Division: JBoss
• Travel Involved: 0-10%
• Job Type: Full Time
• Job Level: 2+ years experience
• Education: Bachelors Degree or Equivalent
• Category: Quality Assurance, Engineer
• Position Summary:The JBoss division of Red Hat is building out a quality engineering team for JBoss RichFaces project. We are looking for a talented and motivated quality engineer to contribute to our efforts. As a QE engineer on the RichFaces project you will help execute and maintain test plans. You are expected to proactively reach out to the development team and take part in making sure RichFaces delivers what our users require. You will also work with the QE technical lead improving our QA process, which will involve automating the testing where possible and thus will enable you and your team to also focus on adding additional value to RichFaces or related projects. We also encourage everyone from our team to participate in our community forums, publish blogs, write articles etc.

ESSENTIAL JOB REQUIREMENTS:

Education and Experience:

QE experience with enterprise class products sold to F1000 customers Familiar with JBoss products (e.g. JBoss AS, Seam, RichFaces, etc…) BS degree in Computer Science, SW Testing, EE or related technical discipline. Minimum 2+ years of QA experience in a computer software. Must have solid understanding of QA test methodologies. Experience writing test plans and working with project teams to coordinate test schedule. Experience working with bug tracking databases. Experience with planning and setup of QA test environments. Experience with global development and communication Good understanding of open source software Must have experience with building testing frameworks and in test automation Understanding of and experience with Windows and Linux operating systems. Experience with the following programming or scripting languages: Java, JavaScript, Ant, Maven

RichFaces Skills:

Experience testing complex web applications and related technologies: JSF, JavaScript, AJAX, XHTML Including the complexities of security, browser considerations, and server side integration. Experience with frameworks such as JSF, RichFaces, Ajax4JSF, Seam is preferable. Experience with multiple applications servers (JBoss, weblogic, websphere, tomcat) is preferable.
Experience with web automation tools such as selenium, watir, or webtest a plus.

Knowledge, Skills and Abilities:

Excellent verbal and written communication skills. Able to work well with a team as well as independently. Excellent technical skills. Highly organized, oriented to schedules and deadlines. Able to work in a geographically distributed development set up.

Senior QE Engineer/Team Lead- JBoss Developer Studio

• Division: JBoss
• Travel Involved: 0-10%
• Job Type: Full Time
• Job Level: 6+ years experience
• Education: Bachelors Degree or Equivalent
• Category: Quality Assurance, Engineer
• Position Summary:The JBoss division of Red Hat is building out a quality engineering team for the JBoss Developer Studio. We are looking for a talented and motivated Lead quality engineer to contribute to our efforts. As QE technical lead for JBDS you will have the responsibility of defining our QA plans and will help execute them together with our team of QE engineers. You will work closely with the development team to make sure the QA plans gets adjusted and you will proactively take part in making sure JBDS delivers what our users need. You will also work on improving our QA process, which will involve automating testing where possible and thus enable you and your team to also focus on adding additional value to JBDS or related projects. We also encourage everyone from our team to participate in our community forums, publish blogs, and write articles etc.

ESSENTIAL JOB FUNCTIONS:

Supervises assigned QA Engineers (e.g. issue regular team status reports, coordinate team schedule estimates, oversee assignment of tasks to team members, supervise knowledge transfer) Develops testing strategies and quality standards. Plans and implements testing, coordinates with other departments, and regularly publishes reports on progress and results. Investigates, selects and implements automation solutions for testing. Works with other departments to incorporate testing requirements into product design and implementation. Identifies and champions key quality and performance issues in new products. Perform other job-related duties and work on special projects as required.

ESSENTIAL JOB REQUIREMENTS:

Education and Experience:

QE experience with enterprise class products sold to F1000 customers Familiar with JBoss products (e.g. JBoss AS and Seam) BS degree in Computer Science, SW Testing, EE or related technical discipline. Minimum 6+ years of QA experience in a computer software. Must have solid understanding of QA test methodologies. Experience writing test plans and working with project teams to coordinate test schedule. Experience working with bug tracking databases. Experience in leading bug review meetings. Experience with planning and setup of QA test environments. Experience developing test result metrics and reporting them. Experience mentoring and supervising other QA engineers. Experience with global development and communication Good understanding of open source software Java programming skills Must have experience with building testing frameworks and in test automation Understanding of and experience with Windows NT and Linux operating systems. Experience with the following programming or scripting languages: Java, JavaScript, Ant, Maven

JBDS specific skills:

Experience writing automated test scripts using open source testing tools that are suitable for testing Eclipse plug-ins.

Knowledge, Skills and Abilities:

Able to work with multiple departments in a growing and changing environment. Able to work in a geographically distributed development set up.
Excellent verbal and written communication skills. Able to work well with a team as well as independently. Excellent technical skills. Highly organized, oriented to schedules and deadlines.

Senior QE Engineer/Team Lead- JBoss Rich Faces

• Division: JBoss
• Travel Involved: 0-10%
• Job Type: Full Time
• Job Level: 6+ years experience
• Education: Bachelors Degree or Equivalent
• Category: Quality Assurance, Engineer
• Position Summary:The JBoss division of Red Hat is building out a quality engineering team for the JBoss RichFaces project . We are looking for a talented and motivated Lead quality engineer to contribute to our efforts. As QE technical lead for the JBoss RichFaces project you will have the responsibility of defining our QA plans and will help execute them together with your team of QE engineers. You will work closely with the development team to make sure the QA needs and plans get implemented and you will proactively take part in making sure RichFaces delivers what our users need. You will also work on improving our QA process, which will involve automating testing where possible and thus enable you and your team to also focus on adding additional value to RichFaces or related projects. We also encourage everyone from our team to participate in our community forums, publish blogs, and write articles etc.

ESSENTIAL JOB FUNCTIONS:

Supervise and mentor assigned QA Engineers (e.g. issue regular team status reports, coordinate team schedule estimates, oversee assignment of tasks to team members, supervise knowledge transfer) Develops testing strategies and quality standards. Plans and implements testing, coordinates with other departments, and regularly publishes reports on progress and results. Investigates, selects and implements automation solutions for testing. Works with other departments to incorporate testing requirements into product design and implementation. Identifies and champions key quality and performance issues in new products. Perform other job-related duties and work on special projects as required. Assists in recruitment and hiring of the RichFaces QA team.

ESSENTIAL JOB REQUIREMENTS:

Education and Experience: QE experience with enterprise class products sold to F1000 customers Familiar with JBoss products (e.g. JBoss AS, Seam, RichFaces) BS degree in Computer Science, SW Testing, EE or related technical discipline. Minimum 6+ years of QA experience in a computer software. Must have solid understanding of QA test methodologies. Experience writing test plans and working with project teams to coordinate test schedule. Experience working with bug tracking databases. Experience in leading bug review meetings. Experience with planning and setup of QA test environments. Experience developing test result metrics and reporting them. Experience mentoring and supervising other QA engineers. Experience with global development and communication Good understanding of open source software Must have experience with building testing frameworks and in test automation Understanding of and experience with Windows and Linux operating systems. Experience with the following programming or scripting languages: Java, JavaScript, Ant, Maven

RichFaces Skills:

Experience testing complex web applications and related technologies: JSF, JavaScript, AJAX, XHTML Including the complexities of security, browser considerations, and server side integration. Experience with frameworks such as JSF, RichFaces, Ajax4JSF, Seam is preferable. Experience with multiple applications servers (JBoss, weblogic, websphere, tomcat) is preferable.
Experience with web automation tools such as selenium, watir, or webtest a plus.

Knowledge, Skills and Abilities:

Able to work with multiple departments in a growing and changing environment. Able to work in a geographically distributed development set up.
Excellent verbal and written communication skills. Able to work well with a team as well as independently. Excellent technical skills. Highly organized, oriented to schedules and deadlines.

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About Beijing Open Party

Open Space And Unconference is popular now:

Unconferences are gaining popularity in the high-tech community as self-organizing forums for idea sharing, networking, learning, speaking, demonstrating, and generally interacting with other geeks. The unconference format is based on the premise that in any professional gathering, the people in the audience—not just those selected to speak on stage—have interesting thoughts, insights, and expertise to share. Everyone who attends an unconference, such as those put together by organizations like BarCamp or BrainJams, is required to participate in some way: to present, to speak on a panel, to show off a project, or just to ask a lot of questions. As an event, the character of the unconference falls somewhere between that of a bazaar and that of an intellectual salon. It is, to borrow a phrase, a free “marketplace of ideas.” There are no themes or tracks to guide you, as in a typical conference; the whole event is centered on what might be called the discussion group. The ad hoc nature and the low cost of this forum (they’re usually free, compared to the hundreds of dollars needed to attend some industry gatherings) make the unconference accessible to many.

Unconference Thoughts:

Unconferences may not have a set agenda, but they still possess a defined structure that provides attendees with a set of tools for navigating the event. The guiding tenets of the unconference are directly influenced by the work of consultant and author Harrison Owen, who describes a method of organizing group interaction, called Open Space Technology.

Owen, in his piece Opening Space for Emerging Order, explains the Four Principles of Open Space:
1) Whoever comes is the right people;
2) Whatever happens is the only thing that could have;
3) Whenever it starts is the right time;
4) When it’s over, it’s over.

The accompanying Law of Two Feet states, “If at any time you find yourself in any situation where you are neither learning nor contributing—use your two feet and move to some place more to your liking.”

Prior to the event, the unconference will be organized online via a wiki, where attendees could register, tell a little about themselves, and float ideas for sessions. As the date for the unconference neared, the registrations on the wiki page increased—the final count would be more than 30 people. The wiki is extremely useful, in that it provided a sense of community and interaction, in addition to useful information, before the event began.

The hub of this unconference—the place where people make decisions about the types of sessions to offer and attend—is a large cafeteria at the venue’s offices. We open with a meet-and-greet period, where participant could sign-in, mingle, and drink coffee. People uses this time to test the waters and discover the backgrounds of the other attendees. The atmosphere will be collegial and friendly: Everyone seems genuinely interested in learning about other people’s projects and proposed sessions. Present at the event are designers and developers of every stripe, not to mention bloggers, podcasters, venture capitalists, project managers, HR recruiters, and a host of entrepreneurs. There are a huge range of ages and experience levels, from kids fresh out of college to gray-haired computer gurus.

The coffee time is an excellent warm up for the next event—the Party kick-off—during which participants pass a microphone around the room, introduced themselves, and give brief synopses of their proposed talks. This rapid-fire group interaction enable attendees to find like-minded participants and make further connections. While people are introducing themselves on the microphone, other attendees are posting the titles of their presentations and general descriptions of their topics—on oversized bright yellow sticky notes—to an eight-by-twelve-foot brown paper schedule grid. Attendees chose the locations (large room or small), durations (usually a half hour), and formats (panel, discussion, demo) for their talks. To gauge interest in a particular session, other participants are encouraged to make a tick mark on the sticky note if they plann to attend. People crowd around the board, frantically writing down in laptops, PDAs, and even paper notebooks the names of talks they want to attend. As the sessions solidified and the overall schedule became clear, a helpful volunteer posts the order of events and their locations to the wiki. While the activity would last less than forty-five minutes, it enable everyone present to get a feel for the overall group, the topics in which other people are interested, and the schedule for the day.

Session topics at Our Party included: Startup 2.0: The New Landscape, Podcasting, Open Source, User Interface Workshop, and various demonstrations of beta and pre-beta software and web projects,etc. Some useful sessions might be a group discussion of recommended “cool tools” for everything from content management to database administration to mapping local area restaurants using GPS software. About half the people in the room present their favorite cool tools and explain their benefits, sometimes hooking up their laptops to the room’s projector and directing the audience to online resources. A group of facilitators help organize the session, sending participants to the front of the room when it was their turn to speak, and moving the discussion along when it got bogged down.

more details:

1.topics preparation

In the unconference,everyone can submit his topic’s subject on topics wall,and then the host can arrange them for time and room.Their topics must in develope or opensource cultural theme.We can make some new beta product or application demonstrations.

2.feel free to join topics

Topics submitter dramaticly show his session for attendees in room.Attendee can freely change his room anyway.In the topics,everyone can give his suggestion or view on topics,or startup another new topics based on previous topics,we call it as “evolution”.

3.Share resource

After activity,the topics leaders should post their material or files,and attendees could post their feeling and feedback or thought on wiki or blog(must tag with special activity-name).for example,in barcamp,someone post his ppt with “barcamp” tag in blog,so that other people can search and get it.

4.Sponsor’s gain point

What for it?Take it easy,it will take a little money,and sponsor will gain more:free advister,new beta product demonstration,technology feedback,more inspirations,more partner,more users and community members,it’s just good for opensource project.In another hand,it can getting more business trace and contact information for your business.Everyone can get your product link and info from google.

5.partners

BJUG:Beijing Java User Group is one of them,it have a lot of registed member who is java developers and evanglistes,tech-speakers.
BLUG:Beijing Linux User Group.It’s made up with all kids of Linux distro users(ubuntu/redhat/fedora/Mandriva/opensolaris)and developers.
BPUG:Beijing Python User Group.
Agile China:Agile China Group is another one,it is good at agile research and practices,and made up by project managers who decide technology direction.
Matrix.org.cn:China traditional Java community,it has been live for 5 years,and has 150,000 registed members.
InfoQ.cn :China new web technology media site.Rich media material is Its advantance:video,interview,article,report,news,etc.

Sure,We’re happy to get more partner!

6.particitants

high-tech creative workers and companies.Such as opensource developers&designers,Java users,linux and opensolaris users,entrepreneurs,articles,photographers,etc.

7.venue

in Beijing/Shanghai/Guangzhou,most of China’s big cities.Art place is good place,’cause It give people more inspiration.There are a lot of such place in Beijing.It’s easy to get it.It is possible that Thoughtworks@Beijing will be host,they provider some beautiful offices and rooms.

8.occurrence time

twice or once activities/every month.We will give date on web site.Date’s initially given at saturday noon.

9.duration

Every time,we hold 20~30 participators and 3-4 hours session.

10.activity model

we communite with facebook’s group and activity offical wiki.Manager is a organizer and runner,he has sending-note responsibility,manage room and collect/arrange topics.Matrix has 150,000 registed members,so it’s no problem about inviting guys.Speaking of speaker,I think BJUG,BLUG and Agile China are enough to get it.

11.budget

It’s from sponsors.It will be taken for place rent,drinks and foods,gifts,white board,etc.But showing devices(such as computer/laptop/projector) are taken by organizers.Every sponsor can pay in easy way:Giving 2000RMB(about 260$) sponsor money/times,average 80RMB/participator.This is at a lot lower cost then traditional conferences usually 5-15x lower.In sponsor’s time.Sponsor should send speaker show new product and technology in topics.After topics,sponsor will recieve topics’s pics,video,inspiration and user’s feedback or suggestions.

conclusion&future:

The nature of work is changing: Creative occupations require longer hours, but also feature perks such as flexible schedules and increased mobility. This means that we require and demand a different set of support systems and activities from our communities. Strong-tie organizations such as churches and community clubs have traditionally defined our social interactions. Those ties, however, are loosening. Our weak-tie relationships (colleagues and acquaintances) may be a more effective avenue for interaction.

The unconference seems an obvious step in that direction. Because they do not require the infrastructure and organization of a full-blown industry gathering, unconferences can happen more frequently. Because the cost to attend is minimal (or non-existent), anyone who wishes to can come. And because everyone at the unconference participates in some fashion, interaction, networking, and the exchange of ideas is a given. It is possible then, that the unconference is not only a unique alternative to traditional professional gatherings, but also a method for the high-tech creative workers to construct a new weak-tie community.

All of above,these are my plan.It’s my pleasure to give any sugguestions!